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   <title>Re: Initial values from a PDE</title>
   <link>http://www.comsol.no/community/forums/general/thread/29049/#p79449</link>
   <description>Hi,&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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interessting that it works for you. I tried someting very simple&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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Hx=x&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
Hy=y&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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and these initial conditions are considered correctly. But the&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
values from the other physics not.&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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What are your setting in &amp;quot;Values of variables that you do not solve for&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
Is there something users usually do wrong?&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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Jens</description>
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   <title>Re: Initial values from a PDE</title>
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   <description>Hi&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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For me they are passing correctly (or as COSMOl expect them to), but I suspect you have something wrong in your PDE physics.&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
Have you tried to solve your PDE alone with different initial values ?&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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Good luck&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
Ivar</description>
   <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 06:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Re: Initial values from a PDE</title>
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   <description>Hi,&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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I tried both and also when the stationary is in the same study the link is&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
not done. &lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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On the PDE node I do not change the settings after creating&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
the node (except for the initial conditions).&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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I'm asking support, &lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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Thanks,&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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Jens</description>
   <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 05:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Re: Initial values from a PDE</title>
   <link>http://www.comsol.no/community/forums/general/thread/29049/#p79323</link>
   <description>Hi&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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I'm used to have both solver sequences under the same study node, then I'm sure the link is done.&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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But what puzzles me is that whatever I use as initial conditions, your PDE solves always to the same patterns and values, so Ibelieve something is not as you expected in your PDE, and that the transmission of the initial condition is done correctly, either in my way or in yours with 2 studies, if you link them at the dependent variable node&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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Good luck&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
Ivar</description>
   <pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2012 04:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Re: Initial values from a PDE</title>
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   <description>&lt;div class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
Hi&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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then have you tried to use the variables from the previous models in the initial tab ? If you work on the same geoemtry it should go &lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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Good luck&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
Ivar&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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Hi Ivar,&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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well I used &amp;quot;mf.Hx&amp;quot; in the initial tab. Is that what you mean with &amp;quot;variables&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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I attach a simplified model, which just does initialsation in the transient study.&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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Thanks&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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Jens</description>
   <pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 05:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Re: Initial values from a PDE</title>
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   <description>Hi&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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then have you tried to use the variables from the previous models in the initial tab ? If you work on the same geoemtry it should go &lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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--&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
Good luck&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
Ivar</description>
   <pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 05:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Re: Initial values from a PDE</title>
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   <description>Hi Ivar,&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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I did that already and tried all possible settings and all remains zero. The help&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
refers to using solutions from different study steps but for the same physics.&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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What I need is cross initialisation.&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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Jens</description>
   <pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 04:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Re: Initial values from a PDE</title>
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   <description>Hi&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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check the help and the doc about the Solver Values of Dependent Variables tab, and the &amp;quot;Dependent Variables&amp;quot; sub node here you define where you get the initial values from or the solved and the unsolved variables&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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Good luck&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
Ivar</description>
   <pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 04:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Initial values from a PDE</title>
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   <description>Hallo Comsol - expert,&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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I am trying to setup a transient simulation where the initial values of the dofs are&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
calculated in a dedicated physics node. All is in a 2-D plane.&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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The transient simulation is a PDE General Form (&amp;quot;g&amp;quot;)  with Hx, Hy as unknowns (think of&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
magnetic field strengths). I am interested in the transient behaviour starting from&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
a particular crafted initial state.&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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For the initial state I want to solve a stationary magnetis simulation (&amp;quot;mf&amp;quot;, unknown Az).&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
From the solution I can derive the magnetic field strength (mf.Hx and mf.Hy) which are&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
the desired initial values for &amp;quot;g&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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How can I transfer the output data of one physics section as initial values to anoteher&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
physics section?&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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I tried:&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
1. Study1 only solves &amp;quot;mf&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
2. Study2 only solves in &amp;quot;g&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;&#13;
3. Study2 in the section &amp;quot;Values of variables that you do not solve for&amp;quot; I refer to Study1&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
(Method =&amp;quot;Solution&amp;quot; and Study=&amp;quot;Study&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
4. In &amp;quot;g&amp;quot; I use mf.Hx and mf.Hy as initial  values.&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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BUT the initial values are all zero.&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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Does anyone have an idea to fix my approach or different ideas?&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
I could live with saving data to a file and reloading it.&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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Thanks for any hints.&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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Jens&lt;br /&gt;&#13;
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